nicesweater:
thetigerisariver:
masters-dominion:
theidesofmaarch:
the same sex marriage legalization in the czech rep is finally being brought up & thats obviously a good thing but i need you to know what a MESS it is. like atm we dont even have stable government, our prime minister is under police investigation & the deputies who proposed the bill come from all kinds of political parties like there is no ‘left and right’ distinction its literally like the parties dont even matter atm. there is just a bunch of ppl throughout the czech political spectrum who made this proposition and their other party buddies are heavily against it so like. its gonna be a wild ride.
Not to mention the other half of the fucked up government se have want to put into the constitution that marriage means only man And a woman, which would put us back to step one, after decades of fight that started back in 1890’s
It is fucking wild!
Tho that thing about it not being a “partisan” issue so to speak is due to how it has been introduced, the #jsmefer campaign is like, a civil/non-governmental effort and they have done individual lobbying afaik from the start? Like they met individual representatives and talk to them.
It makes a lot of sense, bc I think they rightly figured out none of the current parties would give it priority. I actually really like a lot of things they are doing.
And the KDU-ČSL was a reaping of the fruit they grew. It went badly! Ppl laughed at that man/woman proposal, citing arguments developed by the campaign!
It’s interesting to look at that situation in comparison to key Trans* policies like self-determination where the vibe is… People don’t even understand that’s a thing? Lot of work before us!
@nicesweater thoughts?
not much that hasn’t been already said I guess.
you are completely right, it is a “non-partisan” issue intentionally and because Jsme fér chose the strategy they did. they lobby effort is based on meeting representatives and explaining to them what the issue is, not contacting them as a party or as a group. they also have this petition thing but that’s part of the campaign, to show there is support for marriage equality (and as polls show, there is!) imo, so they meet with people from the regions of the country and talk to them, have them sign the petition… so it’s not a weird Prague thing and I love it!
the conservative deputies/KDU-ČSL facebook fucked up, like Čižinský, who also signed it, is in deep shit bc of it (not people like Kalousek though, because nobody would expect him not to sign it). people see the campaign and respond to it and it is beautiful.
now onto the trans issue - I’m not sure I can say anything new that is not uh, a secret yet, but some deputies support equal marriage in the Chamber but don’t understand shit. they only support it bc they met the lobby people! and when those people hear about self-determination, they mix it all together and think Ohh those gays want something more ?!?! but pregnant men ?!?! so we are working out a strategy but I’m not sure I should blog about it you know?
people don’t know that trans people are people that are all around them and they don’t know about the issues we face, so if we made a poll about self-det I think we would fail badly. but maybe with a lot of patience and explaining we can get there and people will defend us on social media and I won’t have to do it!
you wouldn’t find much about public representatives’ approach to trans people (but lmao I can guess), but there was a discussion held by the public defender of rights and in there you kinda figure out what people from the most relevant ministries think and want. it is important to remember though, that there are many people at those relevant offices… but it tells you a lot about the ministry when they send a super conservative person to represent them
https://www.ochrance.cz/dalsi-aktivity/archiv-vzdelavacich-akci/?tx_odcalendar[uid]=266&cHash=69ec2a8ac0b4fb5ac887b81fe5221d4d
in Czech only
Oh yeah let’s keep secret things secret ;) I was talking about this with V. Yesterday and when we take aside like the apocalyptic fears (not unfounded but Yk) what we are left is with -
I don’t think ppl understands that *self-determination* is like an actual thing? Like a process available in multiple countries (which didn’t spontaneously cease to exist).
I think self-determination exist in public imagination only as “so we’ll just choose our gender now?” somewhere on the level of “so we’ll marry dogs next?” which on one level is bad, but on the other it’s not bc it’s an open field? Idk.
Like if ppl even know trans ppl exist the average level of knowledge is like
1. Be rly sad bc you’re in the wrong body
2. ???
3. There’s a doctor here somewhere
4. ???
5. PROFIT/yay, you’re cured!
I’m not like a strategist, Yk ;), but I think this level of knowledge poses an interesting challenge!